Category: Sunday@thePub

  • Blaise Pascal – Hero of Contemplation

    Blaise Pascal – Hero of Contemplation

    Hi folks, I hope you are doing ok? This Sunday we are trying a new venue……. meeting at Mr Petit Bar and Lounge, Park View, near the Dog and Rabbit. Hope to see you there from 8.00pm.

    This week we are thinking about Blaise Pascal, a hero of contemplation. He was one of the greatest mathematicians and physicists of all time! In his teens he invented a mechanical calculator, this was a precursor to computers. He is responsible for at least two new fields of mathematics and his Law of Probability is still used by economists today. He even developed the first bus route in Paris…

    His defining moment came on November 23rd 1654 between 10.30 and 12.30 at night…… It’s often described as his ‘Night of Fire’. We only know about it because of some words written secretly on paper and sewn into his jacket! It was found after his death by a servant. These words were written on it:

    Fire

    God of Abraham

    God of Isaac, God of Jacob,

    not of philosophers and scholars. certainly, certainly 

    Heartfelt joy, peace. 

    God of Jesus Christ. 

    This mysterious encounter changed Pascal’s life. Thereafter he turned towards theology and philosophy. His book Pensees is widely considered a masterpiece of prose. It includes Pascals famous ‘wager’ which argues that it makes more sense to live as though God exists because if you are wrong your loss will be merely finite and if you are right your gain will be immeasurable. 

    Ultimately Pascal was a mystic who argued that ‘people almost invariably arrive at their beliefs not on the basis of proof but on the basis of what they find attractive.’

    Questions

    What would you say was your greatest achievement to date? 

    What strikes you about his quote? 

    What do you make of his ‘wager’?

    Belief through proof or attractiveness?

    Peace, Rob

  • Rabble Rouser for Peace

    Rabble Rouser for Peace

    Hi folks, I hope you’ve had an ok week? This Sunday we meet at the Crescent Club in the upstairs bar at 8.00pm.

    This week we are looking again at some of the influencers of the christian life, this week we are reflecting on Archbishop Desmond Tutu – Rabble-rouser for peace. We start with some of his words… “Without forgiveness there is no future”. ‘I am sorry’ are three of the hardest words we will ever say… these words he spoke whilst being interviewed, laughing as he said them… Nelson Mandela invited Tutu to establish the Truth and Reconciliation commission, this gave perpetrators of violence the opportunity to confess to those they had wronged in some way and ask for forgiveness. This was in the wake of all that had gone on in South Africa.

    Tutu believed through his reading of scripture and the teachings of Jesus that confession could help victims to find healing and perpetrators forgiveness. The results stunned the world as Tutu took the principles of confession out of private pietism and in to the public square. It caused a type of social holiness that began to infiltrate the nation and reduce violence at the time.

    When asked how he managed to sustain himself through the many years he engaged in this, without hesitation he said ‘Oh through prayer, it is prayer that puts fuel in the fire’. In the back yard of his house he has a brightly coloured prayer room which he visits several times a day. In 1993 he was challenged by a nun about his prayer life. The nun said to him… ‘You have been a celebrity too long, it is taking its toll on you and those around you. You need to once more realise your nothingness before God’.

    After all the bitterness in the country and as a black man under apartheid with an alcoholic Father he could have let violence consume him, but he chose to forgive… In an interview in 2014 he said this about his father ‘but if I could speak to him today, I would want to tell him that I had forgiven him’.

    Questions

    If you could be a rabble rouser for an issue, what would it be?

    How do his words “Without forgiveness there is no future” make you feel?

    What does this sentence say to you – ‘You need to once more realise your nothingness before God’?

    How do you feel about confession?

    How do you feel about forgiveness?

    Peace, Rob

  • Jesus is King!

    Jesus is King!

    Hi folks, i hope you are well, this week we are meeting back at the crescent club, upstairs in the front lounge at 8.00pm.

    In the midst of the political shenanigans that we are witnessing, this last week also saw Kanye West release his new album, entitled ‘Jesus is King’. It’s a full on gospel album! Clearly he has gone on some kind of spiritual journey. Its full of scriptural references throughout the eleven tracks… of course its not new for him. Who can forget ’Jesus Walks’ and even last years album ’ye’ had spiritual and religious themes on many of the tracks, we must also remember he has addressed topics of racism, violence, drugs, poverty and prostitution to name but a few. 

    It’s interesting to read the reviews of the album, which I have to say aren’t a great read… I want though to take it as it is… it echos moments of honesty with lines like “You’re not perfect, but you’re not your mistakes”. On the track ‘Water’ his voice is vulnerable and heart felt and pushes you to believe that he is reaching out… 

    On its release date, 25th October people searched on bible gateway for verses. For example words from his song ‘Selah’ come from John 8:33-36, this was searched about ten times more than normal. It’s worth a listen for its simplicity and their are moments of genius in it… but ultimately for me it was roar and honest about a guy searching and finding some answers in the person of Jesus… it can’t be bad! 

    Check it out on Spotify of you get chance! 

    So what about some questions…

    Have you listened to it? What do you think? 

    Whats your favourite Christian hymn/ song? 

    Christian music, what is it for you? 

    What unusual places have you found biblical references? 

    Celebrity ‘christians’ – what do you think? 

    How does music allow us to be or not, more honest with ourselves? 

    Peace, Rob 

  • What is Truth?

    What is Truth?

    Hi everyone 👋🏼 this Sunday we are meeting at the Crescent club at 8pm. 

    Peter Johnson has written this weeks blog:

    This blog arises from a rather bruising discussion I had a few months ago. Things got really heated when I suggested that reason cried out that not everything in the Bible should be taken literally. That inconsistencies existed and were to be expected given the way the Bible had come to be written. I said that this didn’t in any way affect my belief in God. 

    Their reply was quite cutting… The Bible was God’s divine truth and authoritative word and was never to be questioned. One couldn’t pick and choose – to question any one bit was to question it all and in doing so one was calling God a liar. 

    Afterwards I felt rather grubby. Was I calling God a liar? Was I doubting His word and questioning His integrity? Did I actually trust Him? I talked with Rob about it and he thought it would be a worthwhile topic for discussion. 

    So here goes:
    Q1. We begin with a question which seems especially relevant to our times, given that truth seems to be an increasingly rare commodity – the same question Pilate put to Jesus. What is truth?

    Q2. Can there ever be justification for not telling the truth. Do you think God would ever do that? 

    Q3. A Christian who lived in Indonesia was arrested for having a Bible in his possession. He was taken to a correction camp and after being beaten was forced to tear out the pages and drop them down the communal latrine one by one. He was then released and warned of the consequences of being caught with a Bible again. That night he broke into the camp, crawled into the latrine and extracted the pages of his Bible. He took them home and cleaned them up before putting them back together again, for the Bible was his most treasured possession. How do you feel about that story?

    Q4. How do you feel about the viewpoint that in not taking everything literally you are calling God a liar. 

    Q5. Do we just accept that God is truthful because of who He is, or is it ok to look for re-assurance? If so, where can we find that re-assurance?

    Q6. For the people I spoke to, their faith was dependent upon a literal acceptance of the Bible and was so precious that if you took it away, they doubted if their faith would survive. Does your faith have the same basis and if not, what would you regard as most precious to your faith? 

    Q7. How do you think God feels about such discussions?

  • Joni Eareckson Tada

    Joni Eareckson Tada

    Hi folks, I hope you have had a good week, this week we are meeting at The Crescent Club at 8.00pm, This weeks blog has been written by Angela, and we continue to look at the prayer lives of those who have gone before us. This week we think about Joni Eareckson Tada.

    When she was just 17, Joni broke her spine in a diving accident. Leaving her paralysed from the shoulders down. Despite prayer, biblical rituals and an unswerving faith/belief in healing, healing never came.

    Unsurprisingly Joni spent years battling depression, suicidal thoughts and doubts in her faith. In time Joni was able to find her purpose in life: bringing hope, comfort and advocacy to millions of people through her spoken testimony of not being healed. She also learned to paint by holding the brush with her teeth!

    Many of us reading this week’s blog can relate on a personal level to struggles in our lives; be that mental, physical, relational, financial, addiction….. Or when situations out of our control have turned our lives and those of family and friends upside down.

    Here are a few questions to ponder:

     As a kid, what did you ask Santa for but not get and how did it make you feel?

     Do you agree with all / some or none of this statement from the story about Joni- “God uses suffering to purge sin from our lives, strengthen our commitment to him, force us to depend on grace, bind us together with other believers, produce discernment, foster sensitivity, discipline our minds, spend out time wisely, stretch our hope, cause us to know Christ better, make us long for the truth, lead us to the repentance of sin, teach us to give thanks in times of sorrow, increase faith, and strengthen character.”

     Has there been a time when you have been able to support someone because you too had been through as similar experience? Is it always helpful to share your own experience with someone who is struggling.

    Peace, Angela

  • Jesus Freak

    Jesus Freak

    Hi folks, I hope you are well, this week we are meeting at the Kittiwake at 8.00pm, it would be great to see you if you are able. 

    We continue to think about some of the major influencers of the Christian faith around prayer, this week we are thinking about Count Zinzendorf. Zinzendorf was born in 1700 in to an aristocratic Austro-German family. He was a social reformer, bishop, hymn writer, architect, and was behind a religious order based around a Moravian village at Herrnhut. 

    He was though a man of prayer, scholar George Forell described him as ‘the noble Jesus freak’! Whilst at Halle Academy he had instigated seven praying societies, all before the age of sixteen. At twenty-two he built a village to house some refugees who stumbled on to the estate, this was called Herrnhut – which means ‘The Lords Watch’. In 1727 when the community was very young he gathered folks together in the local church and challenged them to apologise to each other for quarrelling, the account of this event states the Holy Spirt turned up and a fortnight later a group of twenty four men and twenty four women were inspired by Leviticus 6:13 ‘the sacred fire was never permitted to go out at the altar’. These folks committed themselves to pray continually, each taking an hour, day and night. Prayer would never stop here for over a hundred years! 

    After five years of continuous prayer Zinzendorf began to send out missionaries. Herrnhut would become the epicentre of the missionary movement of the eighteenth century. These missionaries moved by prayer went to nation after nation that had not heard the story of Jesus. Every missionary that was sent out would partner with a family to intercede for them and financially to support them whilst on mission. So intercession and mission were tied together.  His influence reminds us that prayer changes us and changes the world. 

    Some questions

    What would your ‘Jesus’ nickname be? 

    What struck you about his story?

    What is intercession, and how does it work? 

    What do you think the link is between intercession and mission?

    How can we prayerfully support each other better? 

    Peace, Rob

  • Feet of Clay

    Feet of Clay

    Hi folks, i hope you are well, this week we are meeting at 8.00pm in the upstairs room overlooking the bay at the Crescent Club. This week we continue to think about the saints of old and i’m thankful to Noreen for writing this for us.

    I’ve recently been researching the life of John Wesley, the founder of the Methodist church (though is only existed after his death) who was undoubtedly a great Christian leader and evangelist. I had assumed that because he was such a busy man that he had remained single, particularly as he preached that ‘the single life is a gift of God’ and deterred his preacher colleagues from marrying. However in my research I discovered that in 1751 when aged 48 and opposed by his brother Charles, he married to a widow with five children! Her name was Mary (known as Mollie) Vazeille and although you can find information on Mary online, within the Methodist Church she seems to have been airbrushed from history.

    There may be good reason for this. Early in the marriage, Mary began to create problems and division. Because of John’s long absences preaching all over Britain and beyond, and because of his spiritual counselling of women, Mary felt she was being sidelined and neglected. She was also jealous of the attention that John gave to women in the congregations he visited. If she hoped to be recognised as John’s wife for posterity this was unlikely. In John’s famous journal, his wedding isn’t even mentioned, even though John was staying at Mary’s house at the time, having injured himself falling on an icy path. As their marriage progressed, it must have hurt Mary that there was precious little mention of her as his wife in Wesley’s correspondence (which of course she read, as John had given his permission for her to do so, perhaps unwisely!).

    Mary did accompany John on some of his preaching journeys, particularly with her daughter Jane. As an aside, Jane is mentioned—as well as John–in a plaque at St Andrew’s church, Newcastle as Jane married local preacher, John Smith and they worshipped at St Andrew’s.

    In the early years of their marriage it became clear to Mary that John was not going to change. His evangelism for the kingdom, and his preaching duties around the country would always come before her. However, she became suspicious that this was not the only reason John was travelling around. Sometimes Mary set out after John had departed to check up on him! Although John had given permission for Mary to open his letters in his absence, she didn’t help her cause by occasionally rewriting them! She also passed the rewritten copies onto John’s critics, and occasionally publishers. That can’t have gone down well with John, who I feel was at heart probably a humble and private person.

    As time went on they led separate lives, though they did have some uneasy truces. John appeared to get on well with Jane and the rest of the Vazeille family. He also had an agreement drawn up that he would not touch Mary’s inheritance from her late husband, nor she be responsible for any of his debts. However, there were several occasions when Mary was an embarrassment to John. One was witnessed by John Hampson who came into a room unexpectedly, and found Mary dragging John around on the floor by his hair! In another, during the Methodist Convention of 1757 the housekeeper at Bristol, Sarah Ryan (whom Mary detested) was serving dinner when Mary announced, ‘The whore who is serving you has three husbands!’ Certainly that would liven up a Methodist Conference these days!

    So, my reading of the Wesley marriage is that there were faults on both sides—jealousy and scheming on Mary’s part; excluding Mary from the important parts of his life, and being naïve in his relations with women on John’s. Before Mary there had also been women that John had formed relationships with but these did not progress to marriage, though at least two were headed that way until John got cold feet (and Charles had his say). So, although John is a revered figure in the Methodist church and beyond, and was a man of exceptional gifts, particularly for preaching; someone who challenged authority by preaching to those on the lowest rungs of society, and someone who as we know left a lasting legacy not just in Britain but in the world. Nevertheless, he was a man with feet of clay.

    1. Which people in the public eye have you admired then were very disappointed by?
    2. Have you ever felt a work colleague was treating another colleague in an unprofessional manner? Did you say anything/act on your concerns?
    3. Have you ever counselled anyone/been counselled and felt uncomfortable at the way the sessions were proceeding?
    4. Have you ever felt unappreciated either in the workplace or at home? Did you make your feelings known and was it resolved?
    5. Have you (or someone you know) ever misrepresented/misquoted something another person has said in order to make yourself (or the someone you know) look good?
    6. Theresa May famously said that the naughtiest thing she ever did was run through a field of corn. What’s the naughtiest thing you’ve ever done, that you’ll admit to?

    Peace

  • Chill out night…

    Chill out night…

    Hi folks, this week we are meeting for a chilled evening, an opportunity to chat, and be together. A good opportunity to get to know folks who you may not have spoken to much.

    Meeting at 8.00pm at the Head of Steam, Tynemouth.

    Peace, Rob

    Hope to see you there…

    Peace, Rob

  • A Pair of Jeans…

    A Pair of Jeans…

    Hi folks, hope you are ok… this week we are meeting back at the Crescent Club, 8.00pm for those who are around. This weeks reflection comes from Stephen… thanks mate!

    Having watched a documentary on the environmental consequences of fashion as well as the economic impact of fast fashion I have been struck by what we buy has a massive impact far beyond what you might expect. Making a pair of jeans can use up 7600 litres of water, which is over 760 full baths!

    Behind nearly every purchase we make whether food, clothing, electrical items there are ethical, welfare and environmental issues we often don’t consider.

    We all need to buy things to eat, and wear and I think we can all agree about the perils of a materialistic society, but this issue is how we approach ever purchase we make, not that we buy to much.

    I wonder what Jesus would say about our disconnected free market economics which let’s the market decide what something is worth but puts that in no context. If we knew a pair of Jeans takes 7600 litres of water to make would we see a price of £10 for a pair of jeans seem sustainable and what are the alternatives.

    Questions:

    How engaged are you in what you buy, where it comes from, what impact does it have on the environment or the people who made it.

    Does the free market economic model need throwing out wholesale or just fixing.

    What alternatives are there.

    When the really value of something like a pair of Jeans ethically made with good environmental values can cost £100 how do we balance this up as to most people that is a lot of money, the same can be true of ‘good’ food.

    How can we reset or re-educate our value systems to help us mark better decisions in what/how we buy.

    Peace.

  • Happy Anniversary!

    Happy Anniversary!

    Hi folks, I hope you are well, this week we are meeting in the Crescent Club upstairs in the front lounge at 8.00pm.

    This weekend sees the 10th anniversary of sunday@thepub! I know, how did that happen! The church seems to celebrate anniversaries more than other organisations… meaning they celebrate them every year! I’m not sure they need celebrating that regularly! But hey!

    When I was thinking about this, I wondered about why we celebrate them, maybe it’s about giving thanks for the past, and thinking about the journey we have been on that’s brought us this far. Maybe we think about the people that have been part of the story, and maybe its about thinking about the future.

    Some questions

    How do you feel about anniversaries?

    When you think back in your life what are you thankful for?

    Whats important about the journey?

    Who are the significant people that you remember?

    How do you think about the future?

    Whats your story about being part of the community at Sunday@thepub?

    Peace, Rob